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Daily Kos Poll on Rachel Corrie: progressive site?

fairleft — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:29:17 GMT

Attached to this article over there:

Did you know March 16 is the 7th anniversary of Rachel Corrie's death?
No, and I don't care.
33% (16 votes)
No, but thank you for reminding me. What can I do to honor her memory?
18% (9 votes)
Yes. What can I do to honor her memory? (go to rachelcorriefoundation.org and find out)
25% (12 votes)
No/yes, but I don't care for that pro-Palestinian illegal protester.
16% (8 votes)
Other answer.
6% (3 votes)
48 votes

So, the 'I don't cares' win at pseudo-progressive Daily Kos. On this issue that site is a ridiculous embarrassment to real progressives, a result of banning many many on the P side of the I/P debate.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

Let's Face It. BorderJumpers Are Finances by Bill Gates And Dave Rockefeller

blues — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:17:40 GMT

The Rockefellers wanted to overthrow FDR to establish a Hitler style fascist state in the USA.

We do not need you fascist "market mavens" here!

Take your WalMart greeting smiley faces elsewhere.

We are not part of your corporate fascist smiley face bullshit. We will dig even deeper now. Keep digging!

You have already lost Africa to China. Enjoy your meaningless lives. Fascist scum.

Say hi to Traitor Prescott Bush for us while you're at it.

Progressive Organizations are all being owned now by Corporations

Stu Piddy — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:27:03 GMT

You better watch this....

This is happening in ALL Areas. All "progressive" organizations are being privatized by corporations.

http://www.democracynow.org/20...

Get a job, hippy!

Jacob Freeze — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:24:20 GMT

Or get a clue!

There's a photo-copy of the article-for-pay at the other link.

That remark is very often misquoted

cometman — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:56:17 GMT

It was never money that was the root of all evil in the original quote from the Xtian bible. The love of money is.

Money is just a tool.

Very nice.

cometman — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:51:50 GMT

You might be interested in this which I ran across today - The David Foster Wallace Audio Project.

Who is Bowman Cutter...head of CARE?

Stu Piddy — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:56:32 GMT

Care International is headed by Bowman Cutter a Venture Capitalist.

That means he invests in companies on a gamble and the success or failure of the company does not necessarily indicate a loss.

Venture capitalist sometimes invest in companies to sell them piece meal, or, to sell them at a later date for profit and sometimes for the purpose of developing the company. But basically they are a buy and sell firm.

He allegedly currently heads Micro Vest

http://www.microvestfund.com/

This appears to be a fake website. Why it's fake I don't know. It must have cost 30.00 to make the website for this fabulously wealthy man.

The problem with these "charitable" agencies is they are made up of a mix of very wealthy people, some who may or may not be "idealistic" and they are often attached to predatory business interests and intelligence agencies.

I don't like where Bowman Cutter who heads care, comes from.

Being a venture capitalist...a predatory capitalist....and heading an organization like "CARE" can give one the cover of being altruistic while engaging in predatory activities through other companies or through CARE itself.

It doesn't sound good, it doesn't look good, these kinds of alleged "helpers" who want to missionize the "poor" who may never have asked for any 'help" to begin with.

The whole idea that people from America can go somewhere and "Show" other people better ways to do things ought to be looked at with great skepticism on a number of levels.

1). It's very assuming.
2). It's often done for profit or alleged "intelligence".
3). It's often looked at as a nuisance by the people being helped.
4). There often a religious component involved.
5). American involvement in other nations usually proves disastrous for America and the nation in question. I can think of none since WWII where anything of benefit has come. You can start with Iran, Guatemala in the early 50's and the legacy of those involvements, which included sabotage combined with "help" unions and workers.

I don't like this stuff.

Fuck This "Market" Bullshit

blues — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:55:04 GMT

Fuck NGO sponsored ethno-tourism. You have no real answers, just warm fuzziness about corporate sponsored NGOs that promote so-called "markets." Thanks for being upscale WalMart greeters.

See:

How Relevant Is Worldwatch?

Yeah, I know

d3n4l1 — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:41:27 GMT

but you've got to be careful, some rich people deserve what they earn because they make good things, or good things happen. Money isn't the root of all evil, it fertilizes many things.

If You Want To Change Course, You Need A Destination

blues — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:41:25 GMT

And despite the vague suggestions of people like Chomsky, you need explicit demands. See:

Forget The Pwoggie Bullshit - Go Equitarian!

::::slurps from wooden spoon:::::

Jack's Smirking Revenge — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:18:54 GMT

No...not yet...needs to cook for a bit longer and then I can begin to serve it.

;-)

Lovely name,

gzodik — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:12:16 GMT

Miss Sex.

Doesn't mean we can't fucking take it back.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:50:03 GMT

As time goes by, I tend to not worry about kinking someone's psyche that way...

It's just their nature. They've learned to whine, but they don't even know what they're saying.

Don"t confuse it with quote marks.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:42:55 GMT

I''m watching all of you.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:42:23 GMT

The double apostrophe is the signal to strike.

Put these together and sell them to Wired magazine.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:36:15 GMT

Good articles.

Naaah. Good try, though.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:31:59 GMT

It's not even wrong. It's pointless.

Why keep reminding everyone of how bad they were in the past? They weren't in the past, and they're not going to accept blame for their ancestors. The USA ain't built on bloodlines. Quite the opposite.

We're not Serbs, killing people because their ancestors killed our, and vice versa. That path leads to poisoned lives.

I like Obama's "Let's look to the future" best when it's about abandoning the constant finger-pointing.

There is no whiteysphere. There isn't any organized caste, but people tend to like their own kind, and I like people who can discriminate, as in figure out stuff.

And this figured out nothing. It's just a pastiche of old liberal rants about how evil it is to assign people to groups, while assigning them to groups.

You want something to work on, work on reducing the ideology that drives this kind of reductionist crap.

I guess, but...

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:23:07 GMT

Loves me some homosexuals of ANY gender. Yay!!!

Go deep, go often.

Ormond Otvos — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:19:13 GMT

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2010/02/17/0956797610362675.full

Thanks for mentioning the late great DFW!

Jacob Freeze — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:55:55 GMT

Did you ever see the obituary I wrote about him?

"Yorick," I used to say, "If you ever stick your head in that metaphysical microwave oven, I'll try to achieve a fleeting notoriety by writing an absurd obituary!"
"Hamlet, you unscrupulous idiopath," Himself would reply, "When I go, I'll take you with me!

God money....

Jack's Smirking Revenge — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:50:42 GMT

indeed.

Oh they're hysterical.....

Jack's Smirking Revenge — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:50:09 GMT

I would check out the "Missed Connections" on there for a good laugh.

Thanks, Stu.

mplo — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:53:22 GMT

Okay--but just one thing:

This kind of joking is really not very funny to begin with, but, given the present post 9/11 overall climate here in this country right now, and this particular climate right now, with some of the incidents that've taken place in its wake, these sort of jokes are rendered even less funny. Moreover, you could get into some pretty big trouble, because one never knows how another poster will react. Just be careful, OK?

The Oscars were on last night?

cometman — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:38:50 GMT

I'm glad I didn't know that.

Did Keanu Reeves win one too? If they're handing them out to hacks like Sandra Bullock he can't be far behind.

Coincidentally, Oblivion without the Ha-ha is also the name of a very good book of short stories by David Foster Wallace.

FYI

Jacob Freeze — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:33:45 GMT

FYI The Oblivion Ha-Ha is the title of a book of poems published in 1970 by the brilliant American poet James Tate.