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The Tonal and the Nagual

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Tonal and Nagual
Encyclopedia of Religion

Below follow several excerpts from the book by Carlos Castaneda Tales of Power (in these excerpts the term nagual means the non-material world):

"The tonal begins at birth and ends at death, but the nagual never ends. The nagual has no limit. The nagual is where Power hovers."

"For the nagual, there is no land, or air, or water. Therefore, the nagual glides, or flies, or does anything it can do in the time of the nagual, which is not related at all to the time of the tonal. These two things do not intersect."

"The tonal and the nagual are two different worlds. In one you talk, in the other you act."

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The Nagual and The Tonal

Toltec-nagual.com

The Toltecs look at creation as consisting of the Nagual and the tonal. The Nagual is all that is. It is unstructured. The Nagual condenses and the tonal is formed. The tonal is structured energy. The average  person only perceive the tonal. As we move into the world of energy we enter, what is referred to by the Toltecs as the Second Attention.

The Second Attention is the world of energy. As all form comes from energy there are many benefits gained from the ability to negotiate and maneuver in the Second Attention. The Second attention is not bound by space and time. When in the Second Attention we are able to "see" events before they come into manifestation. We can "see" patterns of energy before they manifest into form.

To perceive energy we must raise our frequency. To raise our frequency we must begin by cleaning, clearing, healing and strengthening the human tonal, or the our bodies of structure. The human tonal consists of three bodies, the mental body, the emotional body and the physical body. Each body of structure in the human has a specific purpose and function. It is important that each body function properly or there is dysfunction in the human system. A dysfunctional tonal blocks our ability to perceive the Nagual and the Second Attention, or at best any perception we have is perverted.

Nagual
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In Mesoamerican folk religion, a Nagual or Nahual (both pronounced [na'wal]) is a human being who has the power to magically turn him- or herself into an animal form, most commonly donkey, turkey and dogs,[1] but also other and more powerful animals. The Nagual can then use his powers for good or for evil causes according to his personality.[2] The specific beliefs vary within Mesoamerica, but the general concept of nahualism is pan-Mesoamerican. It is also linked with pre-Columbian shamanistic practices, because depictions of humans transforming themselves into animals are known as early as Preclassic times in the Olmec culture. The practice is also sometimes linked with the Mesomerican calendrical system which can be used for divination rituals, often for example determining whether or not a person will be a Nagual. The common Mesoamerican belief of tonalism, that all humans have an animal counterpart to which their lifeforce is linked, also often intertwines with nagualism.[3] In English the word is often translated as "transforming witch," but translations without the negative connotations of the word witch would be "transforming trickster" or "shape shifter".[4]

Nagualism
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Nagualism (pronounced nah-wa'hl ism) [1] Nagual refers to three subset definitions within the books of Carlos Castaneda The first, Nagual as source of the universe, the second being, Nagual as the spiritual realm outside known reality and third Nagual as spiritual leader of a group of apprentice warriors. The first, refers to a fundamental yet inconceivable dimension of reality that may be harnessed by a 'man of knowledge' or 'sorcerer' (Spanish: Brujo). According to the philosophy of Nagualism some individuals store "energy" to make use of such "Powers" [2]. Such a person (who is referred to as a Nagual - cf. nagual) is able to lead apprentices of the "Warriors Path" and other receptive persons to dimensions of higher consciousness. . Thus Carlos Castaneda's spirit guide, Nagual Don Juan Matus, often referred to himself as the Nagual for his "party of warriors" - warrior here referring to ones who walk the "Warriors Path" to become a 'Men of Knowledge'. (It should be noted here that woman also play and equal role within Nagualism.The wording could be "Women of Knowledge" and imply equal status within the group.) To understand the nagual one is instructed to: "... Turn everything into what it really is, the abstract, the spirit, the Nagual."[citation needed] this is the final definition of Nagual given in the body of work by Carlos Castaneda. The ultimate power of the universe is also referred to as the "Eagle".

In the worldview of Don Juan Matus's, reality is seen as multi-dimensional or multi-faceted reality that under ordinary circumstances human beings only perceive in part; the known part of reality with which humans are familiar is called the Tonal. The spiritual Nagual is that dimension of reality for which we are not conscious but is in fact constitutes the greater part of reality. Here the Nagual bears some resemblance to the psychoanalytic concept of the unconscious. It has also been said that the Nagual is all that is, and that it condenses to form the Tonal. The Nagual and the Tonal as dual aspects of reality and being such are perceived either through the First Attention, where we experience the Tonal, or the Second Attention where we experience the Nagual. To Castaneda the Tonal is often associated with the masculine aspect of the universe and the Nagual to the feminine. The Tonal can roughly be linked to the concept of Ego or conscious mind. Three states are described in the text by Castaneda, the known, the unknown and the unknowable.

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On every full moon, rituals ... take place on hilltops, beaches, in open fields and in ordinary houses. Writers, teachers, nurses, computer programmers, artists,lawyers, poets, plumbers, and auto mechanics -- women and men from many backgrounds come together to celebrate the mysteries of the Triple Goddess of the Dance of Life. The religion they practise is called Witchcraft.

STARHAWK, Spiral Dance

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When I consider the Question, Whether there are such Persons in the World as those we call Witches? my Mind is divided between the two opposite Opinions; or rather (to speak my Thoughts freely) I believe in general that there is, and has been such a thing as Witchcraft; but at the same time can give no Credit to any Particular Instance of it.

JOSEPH ADDISON, The Spectator, No. 117

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To deny the possibility, nay, the actual existence of witchcraft and sorcery, is at once flatly to contradict the revealed word of God in various passages both of the Old and New Testament, and the thing itself is a Truth to which every nation in the world hath, in its turn, borne testimony, by either example seemingly well attested or by prohibitory laws, which at least suppose the possibility of a commerce with evil spirits.

SIR WILLIAM BLACKSTONE, Commentaries, 1765

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In Witchcraft, each of us must reveal our own truth.

STARHAWK, Spiral Dance

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There is a sort of Witchcrafts in those things, whereto the Temptations of the Devil would inveigle us. To worship the Devil is Witchcraft, and under that notion was our Lord urged unto sin. We are told in 1 Samuel 15:23, "Rebellion is as the sin of Witchcraft." When the Devil would have us to sin, he would have us to do the things which the forlorn Witches use to do. Perhaps there are few persons, ever allured by the Devil unto an Explicit Covenant with himself. If any among ourselves be so, my counsel is, that you hunt the Devil from you, with such words as the Psalmist had, "Be gone, Depart from me, ye evil doers, for I will keep the commandments of my God."

COTTON MATHER, On Witchcraft

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According to the oral tradition of Witches, we were once the priests and priestesses of a peasant Pagan religion. Members of this secret sect met at night beneath the full moon, for these were the "misfits" and "outcasts" who did not fit into mainstream society. Little has changed over the centuries and the Witchcraft community still embraces individuals frequently rejected in mainstream society. These include gays, lesbians, transgendered individuals, and other people with the courage to live their lives authentically in accord with who they are inside their hearts, minds, and spirits.

RAVEN GRIMASSI, Witchcraft: A Mystery Tradition

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Witchcraft is all about living to the heights and depths of life as a way of worship.

LY DE ANGELES, Witchcraft: Theory and Practice

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The fables of Witchcraft have taken so fast hold and deepe root in the heart of man, that fewe or none can (nowadaies) with patience indure the hand and correction of God. For if any adversitie, greefe, sicknesse, losse of children, corne, cattell, or libertie happen unto them; by & by they exclaime uppon witches. As though there were no God in Israel that ordereth all things according to his will.

REGINALD SCOT, The Discoverie of Witchcraft

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It is true ... that the English in general, and indeed most of the men of learning in Europe, have given up all accounts of witches and apparitions as mere old wives' fables. I am sorry for it, and I willingly take this opportunity of entering my solemn protest against this violent compliment which so many that believe the Bible pay to those who do not believe it. I owe them no such service. I take knowledge that these are at the bottom of the outcry which has been raised, and with such insolence spread through the land, in direct opposition, not only to the Bible, but to the suffrage of the wisest and the best of men in all ages and nations. They well know (whether Christians know it or not) that the giving up of witchcraft is in effect giving up the Bible. With my latest breath I will bear testimony against giving up to infidels one great proof of the invisible world; I mean that of witchcraft and apparitions, confirmed by the testimony of all ages.

JOHN WESLEY, Journal, 1768

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All magic, all witchcraft, depends on the Devil, and is fundamentally evil.

MONTAGUE SUMMERS, Witchcraft and Black Magic

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There are spiritual forces of witchcraft working to destroy our marriages, families, relationships, ministries, faith and churches.... Witchcraft is a real force and Jesus has given power to every believer to break free from its deceiving clutch.

JONAS CLARK, Exposing Spiritual Witchcraft

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The blackest chapter in the history of Witchcraft lies not in the malevolence of Witches but in the deliberate, gloating cruelty of their prosecutors.

THEDA KENYON, Witches Still Live

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I am no more a witch than you are a wizard. If you take my life away, God will give you blood to drink.

SARAH GOOD, Edward W. Knappman's Great American Trials

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Witchcraft is not evil. At least not any more than lighting a votive candle, praying for a sick friend, or carrying a lucky charm is. However, there are some who do view witchcraft as evil. This is only because organized religion (primarily the Christian church) has conditioned them to fear anything which strays from their narrow condemning view. After all, if you have the ability to fend for yourself, solve your own problems, and choose your own method of spiritual expression, why would you need the confined structure of a church?

LADY SABRINA, Secrets of Modern Witchcraft Revealed

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O father, what a hell of witchcraft lies
In the small orb of one particular tear.

WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, A Lover's Complaint

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Witchcraft is a way of life for individuals, not the masses, and there's no point in you coming toward the Craft if you are a wimp, a follower, a coward, or a fool, as sorcery is both a practice and a priesthood, and it is not a garment that can be discarded when the going gets tough.

LY DE ANGELES, Witchcraft: Theory and Practice

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Witchcraft, like any science or philosophical system, must be approached from a liberal point of view. When looked at objectively, we see that Witchcraft is just another theoretical body of knowledge. It is a process, not a person. Therefore it is neutral, incapable of being either good or evil. Like all belief systems, Witchcraft is only as good or evil as the people using it.

LADY SABRINA, Secrets of Modern Witchcraft Revealed

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Love for life in all its forms is the basic ethic of Witchcraft.

STARHAWK, Spiral Dance

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Witches are moon-birds,
Witches are the women of the false, beautiful moon.

AMY LOWELL, "Witch-Woman"

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Witchcraft ... is a spiritual path. You walk it for nourishment of the soul, to commune with the life force of the universe, and to thereby better know your own life.

CHRISTOPHER PENCZAK, The Inner Temple of Witchcraft

"Some men rob you with a six-gun - others rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie


Castaneda (6.00 / 2)
I have always liked his books.

It's funny that there is a whole universe out there and humans are always arguing about silly stuff about Jesus and Muhammed as if we are the only beings in the Universe.

The Universe is filled with living things...I think it's undeniable.

Stu Piddy...a Free Range Human


Cool. (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for commenting. I think it's important to keep remembering that we not only can't see all of it, but that there is no particular reason to believe that we're even seeing more than a tiny bit of it, and that illusory.

I find that cheering.  

"Some men rob you with a six-gun - others rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie


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Thanks for the bump, Jack (0.00 / 0)
Mortality is all over the place for me lately. I have to talk about it, and this is a good way. It helps to have it get promoted.

We are made to be immortal, and yet we die. It's a joke, it can't be taken seriously :-)

(stolen from somebody, I forget).

btw, I received my (used)copy of fight club (from another independent bookseller) and read it...thank you so much for the rec, so to speak...you kind of ARE the rec. Great, great book. I read TONS of novels and other fiction, and this one impressed me greatly. It is just luminescent. Fucking brilliant. Wow!

And to think that I might not ever have heard about it, if I had not visited...teh SEWER...

There ya go.

love,

Miep

"Some men rob you with a six-gun - others rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie


I Have Been A Shaman (6.00 / 1)
It's no joke. I am also a scientist. They have nothing at all to so with one another.

Godel proved that there must exist true theorems in mathematics that can NEVER be proved to be true. So with physics and such, there must exist these same things.

So, as a theorist, I can still acknowledge that most of life is mystical, and forever shall be. There exist many very real things that sane people can never understand. So be humble.

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That's a good way to understand the Universe (0.00 / 0)
in its eternal contradiction.  

"Some men rob you with a six-gun - others rob you with a fountain pen." - Woody Guthrie

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