An Emergency Fix for Nuclear North Korea

hype city (0.00 / 0)

their rockets don't work, they can't reach Honolulu, they can't make their nukes work in large scale, no way they can get a unit small enough to fit on a small rocket going.  yawm

NOTHING will satisfy the old man Jong-Il.  He's as crazy as our resident CT peddlers.  

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 17:37:22 PM CDT

Ignorance is bliss... or at least, assholiness. (0.00 / 0)

Maybe UnrealAmerican has "secret sources" which tell him exactly what kind of technology A. Q. Khan peddled to North Korea, and so he knows for sure that the DPRK can't build a nuclear device like the W-19, which weighs 600 pounds and delivers 15-20 Kt, about the same boom as the 8,900 pound bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.

Or maybe UnrealAmerican is just a chump who doesn't know shit about nuclear weapons, or North Korea, or the "absolute" range of ICBM's like the  Taepodong-2.

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 00:52:48 AM CDT

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Rah (0.00 / 0)

I note that their nuke test failed.  Their last multi stage rocket test failed.

And even if he's crazy, you have to assume he doesn't understand we'd turn him and his country into a sea of glass if he sent a nuke our way.

be scared if you want.  it's a free country

but why is it the looney left believe all hype from NK but think anything a western govt says is a lie?

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 22:46:14 PM CDT

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More lies from the scumbag UnrealAmerican. (5.00 / 1)

There's nothing in my diary that suggests I believe anything Kim Jong-il ever said, but that doesn't mean I don't take it seriously when he makes nuclear threats.

The idiot boy UnrealAmerican is apparently unaware that there are still about 25,000 American soldiers in South Korea, and most of them are within range of artillery from the North, not to mention short-range missiles.

For example, the W-19 nuclear device which I mentioned in my diary is usually configured to be delivered in an artillery shell, meaning that if Kim built similar devices according to plans obtained from A.Q. Khan, thousands of Americans could disappear in a flash, with no possible defense...

But in order to know that, UnrealAmerican would have had to do a little research, instead of just shooting off his stupid mouth.

Likewise UnrealAmerican's assurance that we can rely on a dying half-crazy dictator like Kim Jong-il to operate within the limits of enlightened self-interest is exactly the kind of "strategic thinking" that I would expect from a pre-teen boy whose only experience of war is playing video games in his mom's basement.

But the US Commander in South Korea isn't quite so certain that North Korea is helpless...

Much of North Korea's vast (1.2 million active-duty) army has fallen into disrepair. It is critically short on spare parts, fuel and training.

But the North still could unleash "lethal, catastrophic destruction'' on South Korea and beyond, and it could do so "with little or no warning,'' U.S. Army Gen. Walter "Skip" Sharp, the top U.S. commander in Korea, said recently.

Standing in the way: 28,500 American troops and 4,000 of their family members stationed in South Korea.

The U.S. eventually would win, of course, with its ability to vector in strike fighters and long-range bombers and to airlift in additional troops. But it could be a bloody and destructive fight that would leave much of the Korean peninsula a smoking ruin, even if the regime in North Korea didn't use its nuclear weapons.

For starters, the North has trained 250 long-range artillery pieces on Seoul, barely 30 miles south of the DMZ. Imagine salvos of artillery shells suddenly crashing into the glass-sheathed skyscrapers of downtown Seoul at rush hour, creating blizzards of lethal shards and firestorms of collapsing buildings.  

The point of my diary, which really wasn't intended for neo-con jerkoffs like UnrealAmerican, is that with a relatively small investment in diplomatic niceties and maybe a little personal attention, we can reduce a real threat to tens of thousands of American soldiers, and other targets like Tokyo.

The ratio of benefit to cost in this instance is so enormous that only a complete moron like UnrealAmerican or his hero George W. Bush could fail to see it.

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 00:47:02 AM CDT

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those points were valid (0.00 / 0)

why did you feel the need to add the paranoia/fear/hype thing?  That's the Neocon's play.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 03:22:15 AM CDT

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Look at your first comment. (0.00 / 0)

"hype city"

You totally blow off my whole diary in 3 lines, and "yawm."

What kind of response did you expect?

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 07:25:03 AM CDT

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honest one? (0.00 / 0)

I reacted to the parts I didn't agree with and that I felt cheapened what could have been a decent effort.  

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 16:45:33 PM CDT

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Right. (0.00 / 0)

"hype city"

What a brilliant example of focused, fact-based criticism!

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 19:26:22 PM CDT

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When you throw a rock at at pack of dogs (0.00 / 0)

its the one that you hit that barks.

Using the fear card "the smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud" is bullshit no matter who does it.  Your diary became crap once you stooped to that level of bullshittery.  

If you wanted more focus than 2 words, How about Horseshit?  More letters though.  As for fact based, I'll stand on the facts presented.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:36:37 AM CDT

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And what do you have to offer, you fucking moron? (0.00 / 0)

Kim Jong-il can hit about 25,000 American soldiers with nuclear weapons, and that's 100% certain.

He has well-functioning short-range missiles. Nobody denies it.

Kim Jong-il has functional nuclear weapons. Nobody denies it.

And yet the asshole UnrealAmerican compares Kim Jong-il to Saddam and Bush's fear-mongering, because...

UnrealAmerican is too fucking stupid to understand the difference between real nuclear weapons which have been tested in North Korea, and the non-existent nukes in Bush's rhetoric.

I'm done with responding to you, you stupid pre-teen jerkoff.

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 06:56:57 AM CDT

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If that's all you got keep frothing at the mouth (0.00 / 0)

You sound like condi rice on crack.  Or any of the neocon fear peddlers.

I only wish i was pre-teen.  Closer to SS by a mile.

KJI is like a 12 year old.  He demands respect he doesn't deserve so he waves a saber.  Much like Bushy.  Your prescription for dealing with him is correct.  Your use of fear mongering and your general hypberbolic approach to most everything undermines your work.

blah blah blah.  yeah I know,  I suck.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 23:17:01 PM CDT

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"I only wish i was pre-teen. Closer to SS by a mile." (0.00 / 0)

So UnrealAmerican is still just a jerkoff after all those years.

And what makes him or her a jerkoff isn't disagreeing with me...

It's the shit-faced bad faith of his or her insubstantial comments.

Look back at the whole list of shit that UnrealAmerican shoved under my diary...

No links.

No arguments, beyond equating concern about a real nuclear lunatic with Bush's rhetoric about non-existent nukes in Iraq.

The mindless old twerp UnrealAmerican obviously has no other intention on a progressive blog like FSZ except to shit on threads and waste the time of people who are actually trying to make some sense of so much chaos.

Fuck off.

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 14:12:17 PM CDT

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And now for something completely different... (0.00 / 0)

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by: Jacob Freeze @ Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 14:14:32 PM CDT

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keep flapping fuckwit (0.00 / 0)

what is this assigned therapy?

If you spent as much effort on your diary as you did defending the holes in it you might have had something.  Or you could go back to cribbing from Rolling Stone.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 15:42:24 PM CDT

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The problem isn't that he can hit the United States (0.00 / 0)

He can't.

But...

He can kill thousands of our troops if he wants to as they sit on his border.  

I don't see him ever being able to strike the actual states, jesus how much longer til he's dead? Ain't a chance he lives long enough to see that capability.

But if he's as unhinged as made out to be by...um...everybody in the fucking world, there are numerous targets he can hit just fine as a parting gesture.  South Korea, thousands of U.S. troops, Japan, Guam, China.... it all depends on what it is he wants to do.  Is he crazy and hell bent on destroying something?  Hasn't done it yet beyond his own people so there's no evidence to expect that except the caricature of him in the world media (and yeah, it's the world media portraying him as such, not just the U.S. media....newsflash STUPIDDY).

But he ain't hitting Hawaii and I actually have my doubts as to whether he would even attempt that if he had the capability unless he was already on his deathbed.

"Man you terrorist supporters sure do grab for anything."
- theravenseldon

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by: Lauren S @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 01:12:36 AM CDT

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that also assumes (4.00 / 1)

his generals will carry out the order instead of putting a bullet in him.  maybe they like their kids/grandkids/wives/friends.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 03:21:13 AM CDT

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Who is Kim Jong Il? (3.00 / 2)

The picture of Kim Jong Il is not clear to me at all...

All I know is what liars are saying about him.

Stu Piddy...a Free Range Human

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by: Stu Piddy @ Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 09:28:13 AM CDT

yeah just that (3.00 / 1)

and a few million dead north koreans.

Scott Brown is my kind of a Republican

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by: Ender @ Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 19:08:56 PM CDT

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they're commies though (5.00 / 1)

so shouldn't you be celebrating that fact?

It's so hard to follow republogic.

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by: UnrealAmerican @ Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 22:47:04 PM CDT

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